Which is the worse of them all: Son of Godzilla, All Monsters Attack, Godzilla vs Hedorah or Megalon?

Son of G was awesome besides that cheese ball music everytime minilla would show up, Hedorah I actually liked a lot until the final battle just dragged on and on, Revenge is a decent COMPILATION movie but one of my least favs, Megalon sucks.  Nothing is as bad as Space Godzilla though Mothra 1992 and Destroyah come close. I know I'm in the vast majority but I hate Destroyah. As for Sea Monster, it's actually probably in my top 5 of the whole series. LOVE IT

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Interesting take. I don't agree with all your choices but it nevertheless is interesting. So to each his own. :)

I don't know if SpaceGodzilla is as awful as you say. Sure, its probably the weakest of the Heisei entries, but it came across to me more as a run-of-the-mill monster, more medicore than awful, maybe the producers were running out of ideas. At least they did sort of acknowledge their half-ass entry by making their follow-up the Destroyah movie, which in my opinion, is much more superior to SpaceGodzilla.

As for Godzilla's revenge, I don't know. I respect your view, but I think you over-analyze it too much. Yeah I will give credit to the producers for trying something different than the usual WWE-style monster bash, but in my humble opinion, it didn't quite work out. Coming of age story and standing up to bullies? Maybe that message was lost in translation. I just found the kid to be annoying as hell. And in the dream sequence, Minya was pretty stupid running up to Gabara who is twice his height. Even if you want to stand up to him, you could use a little more imagination and use your brain to defeat them if you can't match their sheer muscle power. And you could tell the produers were running low on money if they have to recycle so much stock sequence.

Son of Godzilla...well, yeah its gear toward families which that in itself isn't bad, but something seem to be missing from that film, I don't know. It just didn't work out for me. I  found Minilla to be dumb and Godzilla was just a nasty dad. Yeah the Big G came around in the end, but still, he is not a really a good example of a parent if you asked me.

Hedorah...yeah the fanbase most certainly is split on that. Whatever arthouse pretension the film was supposed to have, it just didn't work out to me. Again, maybe the message was lost in translation, the film just ended up as bizzare mess. 

But still, I appreciate your analysis. I may not agree with some of your views, but I understand the depth of your analysis of these G flicks. :)

Godzilla's Revenge, is it even a debate? I mean sure SpaceGodzilla had its problems and was by no means a great film, but at least it was a film. Godzilla's revenge was just stock footage jumbled on top of what is borderline a story. Essentially it's the trials the kid goes through then BOOM Godzilla stock footage. The film didn't need to be made. It could have been a 30 minute afterschool special, but a 90 minute film? God no.

Minilla talks, and grows whenever the stock footage is needed(i still remember the horror I felt when I saw him in final wars and knew a scene like that was coming again) Godzilla looks different in every other shot. If you go from Seamonster and Son of Godzilla into this movie you're basically rewatching a movie with a different title. 

Everything that some1 could criticize space Godzilla for isn't even applicable to this movie. Oh space Godzilla had bad effect. This movie didn't even have it's own effects, it runs off about 90% of the effects from the last movies. Space Godzilla had a lot of plots that went nowhere. Oh and the robbers in Godzilla's Revene mattered? Sure you could argue it showed the growth and how the kid wasn't scared but he literally escaped the robbers then went and fought the bully. So did the robbers need to happen? No, and if so then there never needed to be a new confrontation with the bully. The kid then goes and squeeks a bike horn causing some1 to fall down and pour paint on themselves, so good messsage Godzilla and Minilla teach a kid to stand up for himself to the point he becomes obnoxious. Not even a close call for me this movie is hardly that and takes the cake for worst

None of the movies listed in the topic are bad, in my opinion. :)

Now, my least favorite Godzilla film will probably be Godzilla:Final Wars. this movie was not an appropriate ending to the Toho Godzilla films. I understand why it has fans, bit I'm not one of them. I really don't like this movie. :/

I absolutely loved all of those movies, especially godzillas revenge and hedorah

I can't hate on Godzilla vs. Megalon or Godzilla's Revenge. I grew up with them. Like most of us, Godzilla vs. Megalon was my first Godzilla movie and got me hooked on him as a young boy. It's been 25+ years and still love it. 

100% agree with you herro

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I don't think anything in Godzilla's Revenge was lost in translation. I just think fans were too busy looking at the wrong things in this movie to see it. I'm only analyzing everything that Ishiro Honda was standing for during this time period and there's a pleathora of evidence to support it: Japan's depression. The fact Honda always said movies, "should be fun." The idea that he was starting to make more movies for/about kids...etc...

This is the director of the original Godzilla, afterall. He does everything with a sense of meaning and purpose, just like the original film. Godzilla's Revenge is no different in purpose, but it is a very different type. The dream sequences are nothing more than a visualizations of Ichiro's enternal struggles. Or eye candy.

Yes, Ichiro's stint into violence is a little jarring at the end. And yes there are technical failings, particularly with the stock footage, but fans like Dupr004 pretty much prove my point: People don't like Godzilla's Revenge because it wasn't really a Godzilla movie. There's a lot more going on with it and it has little to do with Godzilla.

Meanwhile, Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla has more wrong with it than I can list. But lets attempt the impossible anyway:

The idea of controlling Godzilla? What a great idea. Too bad it goes nowhere and is completely forgotten by the middle of the movie.

Yuki wanting revenge on Godzilla for his brother's death? Interesting. Too bad he never develops believably to be compelling.

SpaceGodzilla? Lets confuse the audience by overexplaining his origin with two possibilities, make a suit/design that can barely move and incorporate it in the most boring battle in the series for a 40 minute stretch where the main characters casually converse inside MOGUERA like they're not in danger of being shot.

Shoehorn a cute Baby Godzilla and Fairy Mothra just to appeal to the child and female demograph as well? Check.

How should it end? Well lets recycle Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II's ending with the red Death Ray.

Mix that with the fact that Miki is given an elevated role that does nothing, (They build her up with Project-T, kidnapped her...etc... and for what? All she ended up doing was watch the battle. The Yuki rescue was the absolute worst payoff after all of that unnecessary drama.) a half-assed love story, (You can barely call it one.) and she received a thank you from the Cosmos for saving the world. Why? Godzilla and G-Force did all the work.

I should spend more time talking about how awful the astroid battle was, but, horrifyingly enough, that's actually one of the film's least concerns.

Godzilla's Revenge may have used an overabundance of stock footage, but everything in that stock footage was lightyears better than vs. SpaceGodzilla. Revenge had a consisant script and an endpoint where everything added up to develop Ichiro. Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla, on the other hand, barely holds itself together to be called a movie.

As for the others, I can understand Godzilla vs. Megalon, but I think Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son of Godzilla have too many fans to generalize those as series lows. I'd put Final Wars, vs. Megaguirus, Godzilla and Mothra: Battle for Earth and maybe Godzilla vs. Gigan beneath the stack before I considered those two. (Although, arguably, vs. Gigan has the same number of split fans.)

Well, GMAN, I don't think we can agree on Godzilla's Revenge much, hehehe. I just don't buy that whole internal struggle/stand up to bullies point of the film.

SpaceGodzilla, again, I don't think its really that awful. If you want to talk about plotholes and poor characters, I think Hedorah and Megalon has tons more than Spacegodzilla. I will agree SpaceGodzilla as a design was pretty dull and uninteresting.

As for Megagurius and Mothra, I don't see anything so wrong with those films to be honest. I see them as fairly average Godzilla entries. Nothing spectacular or exceedingly poor about those flicks. Just forgettable standard entries, nothing more, nothing less.

I do agree Final Wars was a bit of a disappointment. The film was more interested in these dull human mutant soliders than Godzilla himself. And while there were some classic monster mash, it was all too brief.

Hedorah and Sons of Godzilla do have fans, but they also have many detractors, and I just don't appreciate it as much of some you here I guess.

That's all good, the world would be a boring place if there are no disagreements.

Gman2887 despite the fact we disagree on quite a lot, I always at least see the perspective you're coming from and try to look at those films in a different light the next time I watch them, however with this particular subject I just can't.

It's not just the fact that the stock footage is used it's the fact that none of it besides the parts with Minilla had any value to the story. Godzilla fought ebirah, Kumonga Kamacuras, The giant condor, and destroyed some jets, but what did that have to do with anything with the story. Did Ichiro learn anything during those fights? No. Did they further the story in any way? Not really. They just didn't need to be there. Also funny that they give Godzilla the attitude of Minilla needing to fight his own battles, but Godzilla essentially does to every other monster what Gabara does to Minilla. No correction he does more, as he kills, or cripples every monster he comes across in the movie. Sure he has reasons to do that in the original material but due to them cutting around any scene with Minilla as a baby, so Gabara is the only monster he interacts with it makes it appear as though Godzilla just walks up to those monsters and wrecks them. Why? Well why not it took up a good 20 minutes of the film so sure. Then to add icing to the cake after the whole "fight your own battles" Godzilla end up fighting Gabara at the end. 

Then there's the ending which as I said. Good job to Godzilla for making the child go to the point of being a borderline delinquent himself as he apparently didn't honk the horn in the beginning of the movie when the bullies told him to not because he thought it was wrong, but because he as scared, so after all that and him not being scared anymore and beating up Gabara he goes and does it anyway, just because he can and runs off as the bullies cheer for him. Nice message movie, don't just stand up for yourself, join the crowd.

As I said it could have been a 30 minute afterschool special about standing up for yourself, cutting out the stockfootage, getting rid of the robbers annd changing the ending. No instead we got a 90 minute movie full of all of the above.

Godzilla's Revenge is the WORST!!!

I love all Godzilla movies, but there are some that are better than others and some that are worse than others. From the list you have given here I would have to say Godzilla's Revenge. Yes it had a great moral to it, standing up to your bullies, but to me it didn't exactly qualify as a Godzilla movie to me, even though Godzilla featured in it. He was only a figment of the kids imagination, he wasn't really there. He wasn't attacking a city, fighting some gigantic monster who threatens to destroy the world, and Gabara was not the best design. Don't get me wrong here, he is not the worst one, I think the electric hand thing was pretty cool, and I have seen worse monster designs. He just in my mind couldn't pose a threat to Godzilla, he was only a threat to Minilla, who still kicked his butt. A real Godzilla movie to me is were Godzilla has to stop a giant monster or a swarm of monsters so they don't destroy Earth or him. Any way this my opinion on this although the ones you picked out are also some of the bad ones.

Durp004, you actually make some decent points this time around, but you're still missing the forrest for the trees. By a lot. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Fans are so fixated on what it doesn't have that they don't see what it does have:The first time Ichiro imagines Godzilla fighting is as all stock footage, very true. Does it add to the initial development of Ichiro? In a way it does. Ichiro's first is merely establishing to the audience what is going on: He's dreaming. Could it have been segwayed into his arc? Perhaps, but the screenwriters felt that breaking it up would be a good opportunity to present other issues in his life: His overworking mother.And on the topic of stock footage, it's never stated in the film whether this story takes place in the Godizlla universe or ours. It could just be he's remembering the fights from movies he's watched. And if it does take place in the Godzilla series proper, he could just be remembering prior battles that were reported. Does it excuse the stock footage on a technical level? No, but sense it's a dream it's a little easier to buy.

And while Godzilla was grooming Minya to stand up for himself against Gabara, he's also not going to let anything happen to his own son-- at least in Ichiro's mind. Godzilla took over the battle against Gabara once Minya had finally proven himself. I don't see how that's contradictory in any way.

As for the end, yes, honking the horn was a bit much, but I want to point out he did apologize after the fact. In the end it really was just a harmless prank to show he was no longer afraid. I too think it could've been written and handled better in the film, but that still pales in comparison to the larger, more important victories:

He outwitted two robbers who were clear represenatives of desperation during the depression. Standing up to bullies is a little too direct of a message. What really happened is the kid learned to survive on his own in a time where he couldn't turn to his mother or father. After surviving a bout with two criminals don't you think he'd be a changed person? Anyone would in that situation: No parents to guide you. Everyone's worried about money. And your eight years old learning to fend for yourself.

The fact that his guidance through Godzilla/Minya is inconsistant and jumbled speaks on various levels: 1) It's not really Godzilla/Minya that's guiding him is it? It's himself. They're dreams he concocted as a defense mechanism. 2) You're right. In the grand scheme they don't matter very much. As I said, this isn't much of a Godzilla movie. He's simply used as a hook for more important dramatic points that are occuring in Ichiro's world.

If you take Godzilla out of this movie, you still have a great story. It's slightly flawed, but extremely well positioned and very bittersweet. I think "sending a message" is a little too niave to say about 90% of the movies. The story it's telling is more poigant than it is preachy and aims not to be a blueprint against bullies, but rather a snapshot of growing up in late 60s/70s Tokyo as a middle class young boy.

I personally think that Final Wars is the best behind the original simply because it's what we've always wanted and that's ridiculousness it cut out all the bad plots that plagued the previous films like Spacegodzilla and Revenge and it included an awesome Gigan which is leaps and bounds more awesome then the original.

But in my opinon Revenge is the worst it's the only one I don't love which is disappointing because Gabara is a cool monster and we haven't seen him since.

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I wasn't expecting agreement when I created this thread, so I enjoyed reading it, no matter the disagreement. After all, this can be a subjective issue.

I get the point Godzilla's Revenge was trying to make, standing up to bullies. But the way they executed the movie was ham-fisted. It just wasn't executed well in my opinion. I didn't need to involve Godzilla at all. It was like deception on the part of the producers. That's all I'm saying. 

Vs megalon was my first Godzilla movie and I'ts always held a special place in my heart so I can't say its the worst. Godzillas revenge gives a great laugh, and hedorah had some decent fights in my opinion. For me, Son of Godzilla is easily the worst on this list.