Which is the worse of them all: Son of Godzilla, All Monsters Attack, Godzilla vs Hedorah or Megalon?
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Godzillatheking123
MemberBaragonMar-27-2014 9:47 AMNow as a G-fan, I love all Godzilla movies, even the bad ones. But speaking of the bad ones, I'm not so fanboyish as to ignore the fact that some Godzilla entries really weren't that great. In fact I dare say some were downright awful. The worst Godzilla flicks I could narrow down to the following:
(P.S-Even when I say they are the worst, I still like them, but I'm not going to defend them when someone say these flicks stink).
Son of Godzilla: Ugh. The film that introduces Godzilla's kid, Minilla. Its highly debatable whether this flick deserved to be included in the "worst" list since there are quite a number of fans to this. And the scene at the end was kinda touching (as rubber suited monsters go anyway). But as a monster design, Minilla just seem plain stupid.
Godzilla's Revenge/All Monsters Attack: I didn't like this flick since Godzilla here wasn't even real but a figment of this annoying kid's imagination. And having Minilla talk to him? Ugh.
Godzilla vs Hedorah: I know Edwards said he "liked" this film, but that was more in a tongue-in-cheek manner. As this film was just plain weird. It made little sense to me. And Godzilla flies using his atomic breath as a form of rocket propulsion?! Yeah, its hilarious but it didn't do much for Godzilla's reputation.
Godzilla vs Megalon: This flick was simply retarded. I'm not afraid to say this is probably the worst of all the Godzilla films. Jet Jaguar is a plain rip-off of Ultraman. And the whole film in fact just seem like a cut-rate Ultraman episode with Godzilla thrown in (I like Ultraman by the way, but I just didn't think its a good idea for the Godzilla producers to rip off him here).
So, which of the above flicks do you think is the worst of the Godzilla films? Or maybe another one not included here?

Durp004
MemberBaragonMar-28-2014 3:28 AMGman2887 despite the fact we disagree on quite a lot, I always at least see the perspective you're coming from and try to look at those films in a different light the next time I watch them, however with this particular subject I just can't.
It's not just the fact that the stock footage is used it's the fact that none of it besides the parts with Minilla had any value to the story. Godzilla fought ebirah, Kumonga Kamacuras, The giant condor, and destroyed some jets, but what did that have to do with anything with the story. Did Ichiro learn anything during those fights? No. Did they further the story in any way? Not really. They just didn't need to be there. Also funny that they give Godzilla the attitude of Minilla needing to fight his own battles, but Godzilla essentially does to every other monster what Gabara does to Minilla. No correction he does more, as he kills, or cripples every monster he comes across in the movie. Sure he has reasons to do that in the original material but due to them cutting around any scene with Minilla as a baby, so Gabara is the only monster he interacts with it makes it appear as though Godzilla just walks up to those monsters and wrecks them. Why? Well why not it took up a good 20 minutes of the film so sure. Then to add icing to the cake after the whole "fight your own battles" Godzilla end up fighting Gabara at the end.
Then there's the ending which as I said. Good job to Godzilla for making the child go to the point of being a borderline delinquent himself as he apparently didn't honk the horn in the beginning of the movie when the bullies told him to not because he thought it was wrong, but because he as scared, so after all that and him not being scared anymore and beating up Gabara he goes and does it anyway, just because he can and runs off as the bullies cheer for him. Nice message movie, don't just stand up for yourself, join the crowd.
As I said it could have been a 30 minute afterschool special about standing up for yourself, cutting out the stockfootage, getting rid of the robbers annd changing the ending. No instead we got a 90 minute movie full of all of the above.

Gojira2K
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-28-2014 6:36 AMI love all Godzilla movies, but there are some that are better than others and some that are worse than others. From the list you have given here I would have to say Godzilla's Revenge. Yes it had a great moral to it, standing up to your bullies, but to me it didn't exactly qualify as a Godzilla movie to me, even though Godzilla featured in it. He was only a figment of the kids imagination, he wasn't really there. He wasn't attacking a city, fighting some gigantic monster who threatens to destroy the world, and Gabara was not the best design. Don't get me wrong here, he is not the worst one, I think the electric hand thing was pretty cool, and I have seen worse monster designs. He just in my mind couldn't pose a threat to Godzilla, he was only a threat to Minilla, who still kicked his butt. A real Godzilla movie to me is were Godzilla has to stop a giant monster or a swarm of monsters so they don't destroy Earth or him. Any way this my opinion on this although the ones you picked out are also some of the bad ones.
"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaMar-28-2014 10:26 AMDurp004, you actually make some decent points this time around, but you're still missing the forrest for the trees. By a lot. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Fans are so fixated on what it doesn't have that they don't see what it does have:The first time Ichiro imagines Godzilla fighting is as all stock footage, very true. Does it add to the initial development of Ichiro? In a way it does. Ichiro's first is merely establishing to the audience what is going on: He's dreaming. Could it have been segwayed into his arc? Perhaps, but the screenwriters felt that breaking it up would be a good opportunity to present other issues in his life: His overworking mother.And on the topic of stock footage, it's never stated in the film whether this story takes place in the Godizlla universe or ours. It could just be he's remembering the fights from movies he's watched. And if it does take place in the Godzilla series proper, he could just be remembering prior battles that were reported. Does it excuse the stock footage on a technical level? No, but sense it's a dream it's a little easier to buy.
And while Godzilla was grooming Minya to stand up for himself against Gabara, he's also not going to let anything happen to his own son-- at least in Ichiro's mind. Godzilla took over the battle against Gabara once Minya had finally proven himself. I don't see how that's contradictory in any way.
As for the end, yes, honking the horn was a bit much, but I want to point out he did apologize after the fact. In the end it really was just a harmless prank to show he was no longer afraid. I too think it could've been written and handled better in the film, but that still pales in comparison to the larger, more important victories:
He outwitted two robbers who were clear represenatives of desperation during the depression. Standing up to bullies is a little too direct of a message. What really happened is the kid learned to survive on his own in a time where he couldn't turn to his mother or father. After surviving a bout with two criminals don't you think he'd be a changed person? Anyone would in that situation: No parents to guide you. Everyone's worried about money. And your eight years old learning to fend for yourself.
The fact that his guidance through Godzilla/Minya is inconsistant and jumbled speaks on various levels: 1) It's not really Godzilla/Minya that's guiding him is it? It's himself. They're dreams he concocted as a defense mechanism. 2) You're right. In the grand scheme they don't matter very much. As I said, this isn't much of a Godzilla movie. He's simply used as a hook for more important dramatic points that are occuring in Ichiro's world.
If you take Godzilla out of this movie, you still have a great story. It's slightly flawed, but extremely well positioned and very bittersweet. I think "sending a message" is a little too niave to say about 90% of the movies. The story it's telling is more poigant than it is preachy and aims not to be a blueprint against bullies, but rather a snapshot of growing up in late 60s/70s Tokyo as a middle class young boy.

BassManRaick
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-29-2014 11:20 AMI personally think that Final Wars is the best behind the original simply because it's what we've always wanted and that's ridiculousness it cut out all the bad plots that plagued the previous films like Spacegodzilla and Revenge and it included an awesome Gigan which is leaps and bounds more awesome then the original.
But in my opinon Revenge is the worst it's the only one I don't love which is disappointing because Gabara is a cool monster and we haven't seen him since.

Godzillatheking123
MemberBaragonMar-29-2014 7:14 PMSomething Real:
I wasn't expecting agreement when I created this thread, so I enjoyed reading it, no matter the disagreement. After all, this can be a subjective issue.
I get the point Godzilla's Revenge was trying to make, standing up to bullies. But the way they executed the movie was ham-fisted. It just wasn't executed well in my opinion. I didn't need to involve Godzilla at all. It was like deception on the part of the producers. That's all I'm saying.

timothyzilla1996
MemberMothra LarvaeApr-05-2014 8:58 AMVs megalon was my first Godzilla movie and I'ts always held a special place in my heart so I can't say its the worst. Godzillas revenge gives a great laugh, and hedorah had some decent fights in my opinion. For me, Son of Godzilla is easily the worst on this list.