Heisei series . . . kinda sucked

Please everybody be respectful on here. Saying one series is better than another is of course OPINION. I do have to say though that we can't use the numbers don't lie as a debate to the film quality. By that debate Justin Bieber is the greatest musician in the world and Twilight the greatest film series if money intake is what you meant by numbers don't lie. Not, picking a fight, just saying.

I'm sorry if my opinions and the opinions of others is causing some anger, it shouldn't. I write on these forums because it intrigues me to talk about my favorite hobby with others, not to stir up a frenzy.

@Godzilla1990'sRules

In that case, I disagree that the Heisei series is the best. It's definitely not. But I made that comment because your spelling and grammar are practically indecipherable. Most of the time I can't tell what you're trying to say, because it's such a mess. Therefore, if I'm a 40 year old man (I'm not that old) then I can only asume I'm speaking with an 10 year old-- which I doubt is the case as well. Would it hurt to spend more time on your writing? Perhaps then I can reply with a more civil rebuttal.

And what numbers are you talking about that don't lie? There are no numbers to suggest the Heisei series is better or worse. I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.

which you are talking to one 

Ah. Well that certainly explains a few things...

look gman i dont want to be mean so can we just stop and be friends and dont say nothing rude like i cant spell which i do but if you had a mom like mine then you would know because she rushes you when your on the computer like on godzilla or youtube i cant even l watch SHMA Reviews right now she asked do you have something better to do i would play soccer but it like 28 degrees so can we just be Friends Gman and sorry for saying that your 40 years old

I'm sorry you're rushed, but it's not a matter of being friends or what not. I simply recommend you find time to be a little clearer with what you're trying to say. Otherwise I'll have no idea what you write means.

so... in my opinion hesei did not suck... its probaly the clooset thing to the 2014 reboot, hate to say it but, 2014 is probaly gonna be alot like the hesei so maybe you should  re concider what your saying because hesei was the most realistic... in fact hesei if not the best then the most well respected...

What I didn't like about the Heisei series is that it never explains how Godzilla came back after thirty years, and how he or she had a baby, and I applaud how they had a consistent character through out most of the movies, Miki Saegusa, but she just doesn't seem to be that interesting. She's supposed to be the one who doesn't want Godzilla killed, but Dr. Kyohei Yamanei was a way better character in the type. Maybe it's the performance of the actors or the ineptitude of the writers and directors. 

@godzilla964

to answer your question on how godzilla came back after thirty years its quite obvious when godzillasaurus was teleported back to their time he was still the original only instead of the h-bomb creating him he was teleported back to a waste zone of nuclear energy then became more powerful when devouring all of the nuclear sub marines energy in godzilla vs king ghidorah 1991 :)

@BigBadBen

You kind of have it right. But the Godzillasaurus was not the original Godzilla. It was only the Heisei Godzilla. The Godzillasaurus was mutated into Godzilla when a nuclear sub sank in the mid 1970s and irradiated it. It then became Godzilla and attacked Japan in 1984...etc...etc...

I realize I'm late to the party here, so I really won't be able to respond to the nuance of all the points provided here w/out writing a book. 

What I will say, is that a lot of the 'problems' listed with the Heisei series here, are not exclusive to the Heisei films. In my opinion, several Showa films had similar inconsistencies, plot problems, and weak characters depending on the film. 

I also think it's fair to say that if you made a list of the top 5 WORST Godzilla movies of all time, the Showa series would be home to at least 2-3 of those no matter who was writing the list. The Heisei series would probably only contribute 1 film to that list depending on the author. 

I for one, really enjoyed how the Heisei series really returned Godzilla's status to that of a villian/anti-hero. I got tired of 'Godzilla the Good Guy' after awhile.

That all being said, I really do not enjoy the monster battles of the Heisei series. I understand they had technically better special effects and more 'realistic' combat.....but I felt the atomic breath was very subjective and over used when compared to the Showa era. It made the battles very repititive and hard to build up suspense, as Godzilla would just do the same attack over and over, but would arbitrarily be victorious once he fired a shot that hit the right spot or a shot that he 'really meant'. 

I understand that that the Heisei suit design made it hard to do the tooth n' claw battles and I know other movies have similar problems of not clearly defining the atomic breath ability, but at least there was more variance in Godzilla's fighting style.

That's actually why the Milennium Series is still my personal favorite to this day. They did the best job of combining Godzilla's anti-hero plot status with a combat style that I really enjoyed watching. 

Anyways, that's my 2 cents. 

I have to agree that after Godzilla vs. Biollante, the Heisei Series slowly went downhill. Space Godzilla being the worst film in the series. I read that Kawakita developed a drinking problem after Biollante bombed at the box office. Too bad, Biollante had great spfx with an interesting story and likeable characters. Biollante herself is beautiful and terrifying at the same time. What a shame. I wish the Japanese audience is more accepting about new exciting kaiju instead of re-using Mothra, King Ghidorah, and MechaGodzilla over and over again. One more thing I'd like to mention, The American cut of G85 is superior to the Japanese version.

I had never heard that Kawikata developed a drinking issue after vs. Biollante. That certainly explains a lot of things about the declining special effects in the series if true. Where did you read that information.

I disagree that the American cut of Godzilla 1984 was outright superior. I do think both the Japanesw and American cuts have strengths that, if aspects of both versions were edited together, might make the strongest version of the film. But between the two, I prefere the Japanese cut.

I read it somewhere on another forum long ago. Might have been Toho Kingdom. Perhaps Superior is a strong word. Let my rephrase that. The American cut is better mostly because of the editing. Yes, I will agree that if both versions combined into one, the film would be the best of both worlds.

I read it somewhere on another forum long ago. Might have been Toho Kingdom. Perhaps Superior is a strong word. Let my rephrase that. The American cut is better mostly because of the editing. Yes, I will agree that if both versions combined into one, the film would be the best of both worlds.

Interesting. I'm so curious about Kawikata's life during the 1990s right now. I'll have to do more digging about that. Certainly explains why he might think using Bandai Destroyah's was a good idea...

LOL! Let's not forget about the excessive use of Sparks! Seriously everytime a kaiju runs into another, sparks!! What's the obsession with sparks? Not very organic. In the scene where Rodan pecks at Godzilla's face you see the sparks fly and even hear a metallic sound. Is Godzilla made of titanium steel? :p

Yeah, sparks and glitter kind of became a visual staple of Kawikata as the Heisei series went on... I don't understand why he thought both were a good idea as they both became more prevelant as the movies continued.

The sparks especially bothered me in vs. MechaGodzilla II as well. When Godzilla and MechaGodzilla lock beams, both times, a spark explosion happens. I always found it anti-climatic and it really took me out of the movie. Shouldn't we be experiencing an actual explosion? The beam lock in the original Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla was far more brutal. Final Wars was also a much better example of that kind of thing.

It's a shame that Higuchi showed up Kawikata at almost every turn in the Gamera trilogy. I remember watching the first Gamera film a being truly wowed by the visual effects, the massive explosions, the way the shots were framed, the low angle photography to enhance the perception, the detail of the miniatures...etc... vs. Destroyah came out the same year and didn't stand a chance against those kind of visuals.

The question that sits for me is why did Kawikata let himself slip so far that his visual effects were, at times, inferior to the Showa series.

Yeah, the 90's Heisei Godzilla films can't compete with the Gamera Trilogy. The trilogy feels so cinematic unlike the 90's Godzilla films. Not to mention the Gamera trilogy had an even smaller budget to work with. Maybe all their film crew were sober? LOL. Seriously though, Kaneko had a very talented and creative team to work with. Shinji Higuchi is an amazingly talented artist. To work on a lower budget that forced them to become more inventive. Just incredible.

why does everyone rip on these movies? i know that they can't compete with shinji higuchi's special effects but lets not forget that the heisei godzilla films dominated the box office at that time.